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In this video, we discuss what will get you fired from a trading desk.<\/p>\nView Video Transcript<\/strong><\/span>

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you work at a prop firm<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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your floor manager<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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your floor manager will go over your<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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maximum intraday loss<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the firm is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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giving you license<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to lose<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that amount intraday<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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firm is not giving you license to lose<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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one dollar more than that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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losing one more one more dollar<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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losing a dollar more than that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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a breach of trust it’s irresponsible<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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at a hedge fund they may even treat it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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more drastically it is a fireable<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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offense<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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on the spot<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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period full stop<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you know the reason for that is your<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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coast you’re a custodian<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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of the firm’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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money<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the firm is telling you you can lose<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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thousand dollars a day<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it’s permission you to lose that it has<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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not permissioned you to lose one<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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thousand and one dollars<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that’s number one<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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this is a i think people look at this<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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as this is a risk issue or a risk<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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management issue it’s actually an<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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ethical issue<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you ethically do not have the right<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the firm has not permissioned you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to do anything more than trade within<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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its guardrails<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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when you’re in a position you need to be<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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thinking about all the things all the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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crate and this is crazy<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you need to be thinking about all the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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crazy things that could happen<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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so you do not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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lose the trust of the firm<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and you can’t get that wrong<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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all right and then you know as you get<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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as you gain more experience<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you work with the risk manager more and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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more<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you will develop<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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for being a bigger trader<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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at the start there really shouldn’t be<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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anyone going over and and it we won’t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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look at it as a risk issue we’ll look at<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it as an ethical issue if we can’t trust<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to stay within five hundred dollars how<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you know how can we trust you when your<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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stop loss is a hundred and fifty<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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short a hundred thousand shares of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that could go from 150 000 to a 500 000<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the market<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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one trade is not worth<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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there’s going to be so many<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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opportunities<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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because there’s just a lot of easy<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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i know that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you all want to flex your muscles and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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get big and take on a lot of risk and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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think that’s the path to making a lot of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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money there are a lot of traders in the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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i was at dinner with the trader<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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who made<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and i’m gonna approximate<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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uh over the course of two over the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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course of two days about three hundred<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and drew down i made three hundred<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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thousand over the course of a couple of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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days and drew down guess how much<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it was his biggest drawdown he made 300<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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thousand dollars<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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traded a couple of different stocks<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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mainly in two stocks guess how much he<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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drew<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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one time down 30. okay and that would be<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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terrific right<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that’s still a one to ten ratio<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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what do you think he drew down<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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50 max a hundred<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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three thousand dollars in judah<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and and swang just had back-to-back<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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quarter million dollar days<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it drew down almost nothing<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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gave it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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had some pull-ins where he gave back<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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some open profit<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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but there are people that don’t need to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that aren’t taking pain in this market<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to make pretty good numbers<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you shouldn’t develop a system where you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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draw down a little bit i’m just saying<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it’s not true<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that you need to draw down and make a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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lot of money<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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um and so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and dr steenberger<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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said something really interesting<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to one of our really good traders the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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other day<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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which is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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one of the traders that he works with<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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who made so much money last year i<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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actually can’t even say it because the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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number is just<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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ridiculous i mean<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the amount of p l that this this<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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particular trader made<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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he looks at it this trader looks at it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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as and he has risk limits on him as well<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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he’s so competitive<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that he views it as a challenge never to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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get stopped out<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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