{"id":47120,"date":"2018-06-09T15:38:02","date_gmt":"2018-06-09T19:38:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.smbtraining.com\/blog\/?p=47120"},"modified":"2023-06-08T15:16:22","modified_gmt":"2023-06-08T19:16:22","slug":"notes-from-our-desks-discussion-with-visiting-trader-alex-temiz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.smbtraining.com\/blog\/notes-from-our-desks-discussion-with-visiting-trader-alex-temiz","title":{"rendered":"Insights from Visiting Trader Alex Temiz: Navigating Stock Sympathy Plays"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-47121\" src=\"http:\/\/www.smbtraining.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/alex.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"446\" srcset=\"\/\/www.smbtraining.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/alex.jpg 601w, \/\/www.smbtraining.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/alex-300x223.jpg 300w, \/\/www.smbtraining.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/alex-100x74.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Alex Temiz,\u00a0<a class=\"ProfileHeaderCard-screennameLink u-linkComplex js-nav\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AT09_Trader\"><span class=\"username u-dir\" dir=\"ltr\">@<b class=\"u-linkComplex-target\">AT09_Trader<\/b><\/span>\u00a0<\/a>, visited SMB for an informal Q&amp;A.<\/p>\n<p>Joseph Gelb, interning with us from Princeton, produced these notes for the trading community of our desk&#8217;s discussion with Alex.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Can you tell us a little bit about yourself and what you do now?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">-Alex is 23 and has been trading for a little more than four and a half years.<br \/>\n-&#8220;The reason I got into trading is because my girlfriend dumped me and I wanted to get rich.&#8221;<br \/>\n-Started by following online Gurus, but found that he was buying tops and selling bottoms.<br \/>\n-Realized that he was going into trades without a plan.<br \/>\n-Discovered that shorting might be a better option, and on his first short trade he made 1000 dollars in just a few minutes.<br \/>\n-Went on to refine his strategy by carefully planning his entry and exit points based on support and resistance.<br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #339966;\">-Obsessively studied tape even in stocks he wasn&#8217;t trading to see if he could gain an edge.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>It seems as if you often look at trading sympathy plays. Is this an accurate description?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">-Alex realized that he often could not get the borrow on the main movers, but that the sympathy plays were cheaper and easier to borrow.<br \/>\n-Once the main mover cracks, he shorts the sympathy plays with huge size because there is no reason why they were up in the first place.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Was the fact that AXON was easy to borrow an indicator that it would go higher?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">-Yes, but it&#8217;s also about knowing what the sentiment of the market is right now.\u00a0 Lots of people are trying to short low floats, but they<br \/>\noften don&#8217;t have the borrow. When a stock is up 100% and people have the borrow, they all pile in short due to FOMO, and the stock squeezes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Is there anything specific you are doing to get better going long?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">-the only way to get good at something is to practice it.\u00a0 It is not enough to read about it or study it.<br \/>\n-&#8220;I don&#8217;t see myself getting better at longs until I start testing them out and going in and doing it myself.&#8221;<br \/>\n-&#8220;I&#8217;m gonna lose money because I&#8217;m still trying to get better at it, but I&#8217;d rather be losing $500 a day or $1,000 a day for the opportunity to make $10,000 consistently after I refine my strategy.\u00a0 It&#8217;s all about risk management.&#8221;<br \/>\n-If you&#8217;re not both a long biased and a short biased trader, you&#8217;re missing out on profits. &#8220;I want a piece of all of it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>How important is it to you to be green every day?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #339966;\"><strong>-&#8220;It&#8217;s not about being green on the day. 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Hangs out with friends. Buys something fun.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What changed for you between losing money and finding success?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">-Most important thing is having a plan rather than winging it.<br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #339966;\">-&#8220;If you&#8217;re not sitting there throughout pre-market and watching every single tick from 7 a.m. to 4 p.m. trying to pick up the little nuances that most people are missing you&#8217;re at already a disadvantage.&#8221;<\/span><\/strong><br \/>\n-&#8220;Once I see a sign that reconfirms my plan, I am going to take action.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>How are you going to trade AXON tomorrow?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">-If it goes up to 5.50, I will enter 10,000 out of 50,000 shares. After that, it will either go to 5.75 where I will stop out, or it will drop to 5.25 and bounce to 5.40.<br \/>\nOn the lower high, I&#8217;ll take another 10,000 shares. Once it cracks VWAP, I will add 30,000 shares with a stop at 5.50. I will take profits along the way and may decide to swing some\u00a0 overnight.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How important do you feel collaboration with other traders is?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">-&#8220;If someone that I&#8217;m trading with doesn&#8217;t agree with the play that I see, that means that I&#8217;m probably not gonna be right. But if he and I both agree, that&#8217;s the play that&#8217;s gonna work. If we both agree and our plans are the same, that&#8217;s usually the one that will be a home run.&#8221;<br \/>\n-&#8220;It&#8217;s really important to surround yourself with people that are trading the same way you are, or are trading the same things you are.&#8221;<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #339966;\"><strong>-&#8220;The way that I learned how to trade is by surrounding myself with traders that were better than me, traders that were doing things a lot more fluidly than me and just watching them trade over and over again.&#8221;<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Is there anything you suggest for new traders that might help them?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #339966;\"><strong>-Record your trades and watch the tape.<\/strong><\/span> Review your technical analysis, and learn to read filings.<br \/>\n-&#8220;Get more information than the guy you are trading against.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Below is the full video of our trading discussion with Alex.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/CkTZ2gI5HIg\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>*no relevant positions<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Alex Temiz,\u00a0@AT09_Trader\u00a0, visited SMB for an informal Q&amp;A. 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